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A Question

Post by loves' the unjust » Sat May 18, 2019 4:53 pm

What is simple?

The Practice or the zen

can you explain?




And does the practice addictive?
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Re: A Question

Post by fuki » Sat May 18, 2019 8:58 pm

Enver M. wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 4:53 pm
What is simple?

The Practice or the zen

can you explain?
Not sure I understand your question,
but Practise is either effortless or requires effort.
And does the practice addictive?
If it is it isn't true practise but more a "personality project"
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Re: A Question

Post by loves' the unjust » Sun May 19, 2019 3:21 am

fuki wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 8:58 pm
Enver M. wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 4:53 pm
What is simple?

The Practice or the zen

can you explain?
Not sure I understand your question,
I don't understand what you don't understand.
which one is more simple than the other, the Zen practice or (understanding) zen itself?
And does the practice addictive?
If it is it isn't true practise but more a "personality project"
i couldn't understand.could you elaborate?


btw: thanks clyde for the change of the new username
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Re: A Question

Post by Caodemarte » Sun May 19, 2019 5:38 pm

loves' the unjust wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 3:21 am
......which one is more simple than the other, the Zen practice or (understanding) zen itself?...
Same thing.

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Re: A Question

Post by loves' the unjust » Sun May 19, 2019 7:22 pm

Caodemarte wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 5:38 pm
loves' the unjust wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 3:21 am
......which one is more simple than the other, the Zen practice or (understanding) zen itself?...
Same thing.
That's good.keep practicing!
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Re: A Question

Post by desert_woodworker » Mon May 20, 2019 3:47 am

Zen practice may very suddenly open up a new kind of health and mentality (if any). It may last for a bit. One's teacher can advise how to proceed after it does not last, and may advise about how to return to the healthy body and mentality. See how it goes, along with the rest of us. Lots of variables make for many scenarios. But, given good conditions and causes, it's good to expect good outcomes. By "good", I mean, not unnatural. ;)

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Re: A Question

Post by fuki » Mon May 20, 2019 11:47 am

loves' the unjust wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 3:21 am
fuki wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 8:58 pm


If it is it isn't true practise but more a "personality project"
i couldn't understand.could you elaborate?
If there is no mind for practise, how could it be addictive?
The body-mind is merely a tool in the service of love, truth and beauty
on the other hand if one is identified with a psychosomatic form then the practise is from a personality project
"I am this and practising that" which are but the stirrings of a man tired of sleeping, not the causes of awakening.
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Re: A Question

Post by loves' the unjust » Tue May 21, 2019 6:01 am

fuki wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 11:47 am
loves' the unjust wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 3:21 am
fuki wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 8:58 pm


If it is it isn't true practise but more a "personality project"
i couldn't understand.could you elaborate?
If there is no mind for practise, how could it be addictive?
Thanks Fuki.

All I need is to return to the practice mode.

or mood.

here i used the word addictive, cause i believe true practice gives pleasure to the one.

cause I can feel that...

we can argue on this
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